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committee, steve scalise from louisiana. so we're going to be a deadbeat nation and this is important, republicans are anti-old folks, anti-young people, anti-sick people. all of those horrible things. what's year you action, sir? >> you know, it just sad this is what president obama is going to become in his second term. he seems to be the only person in washington that wants to talk about the nation defaulting on its debt. i think there's nothing that could be more irresponsible for somebody to suggest that america would default. i don't want us to do that. but just remember the debt ceiling the fact that we're hitting up against this max on our credit card again is a symptom of the spending problem in washington and president obama doesn't want to recognize that that problem exists. >> when you say no one is talking about defaulting on the debt, does that also include letting the debt ceiling lapse? >> well, you know, larry, what we're once again up on the debt ceiling. we have been here before, a year and half ago we were having this debate again. i supported a plan cut cap and ba
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